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Proverbs 3:5, 6 "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths."

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2 Corinthians 11:3 "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." 1Timothy 6:20, 21 "O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen." 

The dialectic process is the praxis of Genesis 3:1-6, using dialogue to 'justify' your self (your lusts), negating (in your mind) Hebrews 12:5-11, the Father's authority, the fear of being judged, condemned, and cast out for your carnal thoughts and carnal actions, thereby negating Romans 7:14-25, the guilty conscience for doing wrong, disobeying, sinning, for lusting after the carnal pleasures of the 'moment' that the world is stimulating instead of doing the Father's will, thereby negating John 3:15-21, the need of a savior, since there is no Father's authority and therefore wrong and therefore not need for repentance in dialogue. When you remove the Father's threat of judgment, condemnation, and being cast out for doing wrong, disobeying, sinning, for lusting after the carnal pleasures of the 'moment' that the world is stimulating instead of doing the Father's will (in your mind and from the environment, in theory and in practice, in your personal and social communication) you negate the guilty conscience for doing wrong, disobeying, sinning, for lusting after the carnal pleasures of the 'moment' that the world is stimulating. Any time you are in a meeting (or in classroom) establishing right and wrong behavior upon "being positive and not negative" you are being asked (pressured, for the approval of "the group," called affirmation) to put aside ("suspend") the Father's authority in order to become at-one-with the world.

1 John 2:16 "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." Jeremiah 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Luke 16:15 "And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God."

In discussion the Father authors commands, rules, facts, and truth to be obeyed and/or applied, having the final say holding those under His authority accountable for their thoughts (expressed) and their actions. In dialogue the child reasons and responds according to his natural inclination to lust after pleasure, with him having the final say hating anyone who gets in his way. The serpent in the garden in Eden seduced the woman into making behavior subject to her natural inclination to lust after pleasure, using dialogue when it came to defining and establishing behavior, resulting in her doing her will instead of the Father's, with Adam following after her for relationship (dialogue) sake. Jürgen Habermas: "In the dialogic relation of recognizing oneself in the other, they experience the common ground of their existence." (Knowledge and Human Interest, Chapter Three: The Idea of the Theory of Knowledge as Social Theory)

Proverbs 3:5, 6 "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths."  Hebrews 11:6 "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." Romans 10:17 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." 

By simply replacing discussion, where the Father authors and enforces established commands, rules, facts, and truth with dialogue, where your natural inclination is to lust after pleasure and resent restraint when it comes to defining and establishing behavior you become only "of and for the world." When you replace what God says (discussion, Proverbs 3:6, 7 with God having the final say) with your opinion (Genesis 3:1-6, dialogue, with you, as god having the final say) you are of the "new" world order, establishing your "self interests," your lusts over and therefore against the Father and His authority, making yourself god, doing your will instead of His.

With the Father (discussion) there is no compromise. With the world (dialogue) compromise (deviancy) is required. In discussion you reason from what you have been told (right-wrong; you hate yourself for being or doing wrong; In discussion you obey, that is do the will of the Father, the one above) In discussion you KNOW because you have been told.

The objective of those "of and for the world" is to "prevent someone who KNOWS from filling the empty space." (Wilfred Bion, A Memoir of the Future) In dialogue you reason from sense experience, from your flesh and the world that stimulates it (I like-I don't like; lusting after pleasure and hating restraint, hating missing out on pleasure; hating the person who is getting in the way of your lusting after the carnal pleasures of the 'moment' that the world is stimulating, imagined or real). In dialogue you are equal with the many below, according to what you have in common with all of mankind, your natural inclination to question, challenge, disregard, defy, attack the one above (at least wanting to) when He gets in the way of what you want. While discussion can not save you, without it you can not be saved. In dialogue (where you are god, having the final say) you can never be saved. "There is no type of past behavior too deviant for a group to accept once therapeutic group norms are established." (Irvin D. Yalom, The Theory and Practice of Group Psychotherapy) "Prior to therapy the person is prone to ask himself, 'What would my parents want me to do?' [discussion, with the Father having the final say] During the process of therapy [dialogue] the individual comes to ask himself, 'What does it mean to me?'" "Experience is, for me, the highest authority." "Neither the Bible nor the prophets, neither the revelations of God can take precedence over my own direct experience." (Carl Rogers, on becoming a person: A Therapist View of Psychotherapy)

1 Timothy 4:1, 2 "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;" 2 Timothy 4:3, 4 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." Psalms 81:12 "So I gave them up unto their own hearts' lust: and they walked in their own counsels." 

Ephesians 2:8, 9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." 

Matthew 18:1-4 "At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven." 2 Corinthians 1:12 "For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward." John 12:47-50 "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." Matthew 12:50 "For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother." Matthew 23:9 "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Proverbs 3:5, 6 "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths."

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